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Re: Cutouts Gone Wild: Oran “Juice” Jones, “To Be Immortal”

Lani — Sat, 02 May 2009 15:37:11 -0000

I was about 12 when this song came out and this song (and video) made me become a feminist. I know she cheated on him and stuff but I still hated the way he talked to her at the end of the song. This was still at a time when women were still depicted as submissive and weak. Thank god for all these women out there now who fight back in rap songs and who have the balls to write songs against cheating boyfriends. I guess when a woman cheats, it cuts deep into a man's "manhood", but when a man cheats, we cut into your "manhood".

Re: Cutouts Gone Wild: Oran “Juice” Jones, “To Be Immortal”

ssudio — Sat, 02 May 2009 15:33:59 -0000

I remember "The Rain". It got some controversy because many thought it was anti-woman the way he was dissing the girl at the end of the song. He was basically this pimp boyfriend who bought her expensive jewlery and Gucci bags and stuff then she meets some guy who treats her right and loves her so he flies off the handle and cancels her credit cards, leaving her broke and homeless and stuff.

Re: Cutouts Gone Wild: Oran “Juice” Jones, “To Be Immortal”

mojo — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:19:32 -0000

I remember "The Rain." Oh, do I. Junior in high school. Dances. Testosterone coursing through my veins in steeper quantities than, say, platelets. Dark gyms. Sparkly stuff on the walls. Little Kings in the Chevette hatchback out in the parking lot. Cheap perfume. BRUT...for men. I am glad Medsker remembers.

Re: Cutouts Gone Wild: Oran “Juice” Jones, “To Be Immortal”

timoteye — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:27:57 -0000

I don't remember this song from the eighties. BUT . . . there is a New York City band (Latin inspired pop) called Si Se' (on Luaka Bop), self titled release 2001; track #2 "The Rain (where do I begin)" writing credit to V. Bell. Uses "The Rain" chorus as a hook. Both songs now seem to have more nuance. Creepy.

Re: Cutouts Gone Wild: Oran “Juice” Jones, “To Be Immortal”

jefito — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:52:31 -0000

As Jason would say, "eeeyyyyyyyyyyyes you do, well well!"

Re: Cutouts Gone Wild: Oran “Juice” Jones, “To Be Immortal”

CarlosRamirez — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:50:35 -0000

Do I smell a Gregory Abbot post coming?

Re: Cutouts Gone Wild: Oran “Juice” Jones, “To Be Immortal”

The Flyin Hawaiian UK — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:02:38 -0000

The answer record I'm familiar with is Miss Thang's "Thunder and Lightning", which includes such mon bots as:

"I don't mean to break on your clothes or nothing. I do love that grey suit you're wearing. In fact, it looks better on you today...than it did YESTERDAY.'

"As for those electro-plated slum gold chains you got me last Valentine's Day-- What, did they have a sale at Chains-R-Us?"

"My man got me a Gold American Express Card. I never leave home without it. But as you know, I've been leaving home without you, baby..."

I think she wins the argument.

Re: Cutouts Gone Wild: Oran “Juice” Jones, “To Be Immortal”

LM — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:39:25 -0000

bahahaha!
That rant at the end... geee. wow.
Thanks for the morning laughs.

Re: Cutouts Gone Wild: Oran “Juice” Jones, “To Be Immortal”

jefito — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:34:17 -0000

The emperor has no clothes!

Re: Cutouts Gone Wild: Oran “Juice” Jones, “To Be Immortal”

DavidMedsker — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:32:03 -0000

Lord Jefito, I am shocked, SHOCKED, that you don't remember either this song or the dozens of rebuttal records that hit the shelves immediately afterwards.

Re: Cutouts Gone Wild: Oran “Juice” Jones, “To Be Immortal”

MC_Snocap — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:37:55 -0000

"It's my world - you're just a SQUIRREL trying to get a NUT!!" Great to hear this again, thank you.

I never got to hear the response song from the cold-busted's point of view. Allegedly it had a cameo from the Other Man in the chorus - her "You saw me ... walking in the raiiin" got interrupted with a deep bass "And ME! ... and me ..." The singer describes that The Juice's control freak paranoia drove her to another man. Take heed, Juice wannabes.

Re: Cutouts Gone Wild: Oran “Juice” Jones, “To Be Immortal”

jefito — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:51:46 -0000

It IS amazing. We'll be tackling a similarly quick fall from R&B grace a few weeks from now. (That's what they call foreshadowing, kids.)

Re: Cutouts Gone Wild: Oran “Juice” Jones, “To Be Immortal”

DwDunphy — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:39:31 -0000

"The Rain" was a big hit so it is amazing how quickly Jones' descent occurred, even if his lyrics are Ed Wood Worthy. I'm figuring there's some MTV footage out there of Jones promoting "The Rain" saying, "Awww yeeeaaah, I'm on top now baby, and I ain't never never never comin' down!"

Kiss... Of... Death.

Re: Cutouts Gone Wild: Oran “Juice” Jones, “To Be Immortal”

David_E — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:24:46 -0000

A stone cold classic. I was sixteen when this hit, and whiter than Doogie Howser. But even I knew that "Whip out the jammy and flat blast both of you" was comedy GOLD.

Re: Cutouts Gone Wild: Oran “Juice” Jones, “To Be Immortal”

jack — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:20:33 -0000

It was huge in my middle school too:

"I saw you... and HIM!... walking in the rain..."

"You're just a squirrel in my world... trying to get a nut!"

Re: Cutouts Gone Wild: Oran “Juice” Jones, “To Be Immortal”

bastard_number_1 — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:49:02 -0000

You don't know this? Man, after I read that - my first impluse was to run up on ya and do a rambo...but I didn't want to mess up this $3700 lynx coat.

What you trying to prove Jeff? You need to get out of here with the crumb cake I saw you with.

Oh, I just love it man. Really. This is one of my favorite tracks of the 80's. The whole spoken thing at the end that I pulled half this post from is one of the best moments in 80's music. It's really a shame that Juice wasn't a huge success!

Re: Cutouts Gone Wild: Oran “Juice” Jones, “To Be Immortal”

Chalant — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:41:59 -0000

Wow. Oran Juice... "Shaniquaaa.. got me whooped. Spank me with your loove.." hilarious. Definitely got some Rick James influence.

Re: Cutouts Gone Wild: Oran “Juice” Jones, “To Be Immortal”

jefito — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:41:37 -0000

Yep, it was the comma. All fixed now. Stupid player...

Re: Cutouts Gone Wild: Oran “Juice” Jones, “To Be Immortal”

jefito — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:38:09 -0000

Only on the stream. Based on the fact that this happened with the EWF tracks, I'm convinced the streaming player freaks out when the filenames have commas in them. I'll test it out...

Re: Cutouts Gone Wild: Oran “Juice” Jones, “To Be Immortal”

WHarrisBullzEye — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:34:29 -0000

I'm totally singing it RIGHT NOW!

Re: Cutouts Gone Wild: Oran “Juice” Jones, “To Be Immortal”

WHarrisBullzEye — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:33:31 -0000

Error on "Money, Honey," sir. Why must you tease me so?

Re: Cutouts Gone Wild: Oran “Juice” Jones, “To Be Immortal”

jefito — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:31:32 -0000

I was in sixth grade that year, too -- but I don't remember a single note of this song. It must have something to do with all the a-ha and Billy Joel I was stuffing my head with. Will had the same reaction you did, though -- in fact, watching the clip, he was able to sing along with the chorus.

And thanks for the love. We love you too!

Re: Cutouts Gone Wild: Oran “Juice” Jones, “To Be Immortal”

Mike — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:51:56 -0000

Come on, you don't remember "The Rain"? That song was HUGE when I was in 6th grade! That monologue at the end of the song is priceless.

(BTW, someone linked me to your site about two weeks ago and I should probably let you know that I am now madly in love with the lot of you)