DISQUS

DwDunphy · 1 year ago

Why, oh why, is this paraphrase ringing in my head - "You'll get my delegates when you pry them - from my cold, dead hands!"

Oh, and for anyone who doubted Michelle Obama hates Hillary, TiVO that thing and play back her reactions. It's like I'm watching Scanners.

Ted · 1 year ago

I'll have to re-watch that 'cause, you know, who doesn't like a good Scanners moment.

ozarkmatt · 1 year ago

Yeah, she had some great lines written for her, LOL type stuff. I actually listened to this one, this was a speech I was interested in. See, you Obamaniacs have to remember, It is is Hillary!'s best interest to have Obama lose this November (and believe me, to Hillary!, EVERYTHING is about Hillary!'s best interests). So I was curious on how supportive of the Messiah she would be. Quite honestly, it was more than I expected. But it looks like McCain's new ad will do her job for her.
And I guess I did land on Fox last night, only Fox would show the Deity while he was engaged in a "light-hearted" moment with the women next to him while his wife was eulogizing Gwatney and Tubbs.
And, yes, if Obama is the Messiah, Slick IS the deity.

One thing Obama can take from that speech last night is how to use a teleprompter. Hillary! did it right last night, and I KNOW Slick will do it right tonight. To them, a teleprompter is like a little like having some of the lead singer in the lead guitarist's monitor mix. You know, just to know where you are in the song.

J · 1 year ago

You think it's in Hillary!'s best interest if Obama loses? I'd like to hear the logic on that thought process. I honestly think that she wants what is best for our country, but beyond that, she wouldn't want to be seen as being the 'Ralph Nader' of 2008, the one who threw the election. If she comes across that way, her political ambitions are out the window.

ozarkmatt · 1 year ago

Hillary! wants to be president. Badly. So bad she can taste it. The next
available time slot for her shot at the big prize is 2012. Now, would
she want to go up against a incumbent president of her own party? Look
at this way, if Obama is president in 2012 and she has a chance of
unseating him in a primary, that means he has really screwed the pooch -
thus ANY Democrat would have a tough time getting elected.

Obama elected in 2008 + crappy presidency = Hillary! waits to 2016.
Obama elected in 2008 + kick ass presidency = Hillary! waits to 2016.
McCain elected in 2008 + either/or presidency = Hillary! has a shot in 2012.

Ted · 1 year ago

Um, Hillary wouldn't have run for president unless she really wanted to be president. Why is this such a revelation to you? Don't you think McCain wants to be president. "Badly. So bad he can taste it?" The same or Obama? The same for Bush when he ran in 2000? The same for John Kerry 2004? You don't throw your hat in the presidential ring and put your life under intense scrutiny for almost two years simply because you like the snacks they serve on the campaign jet.

ozarkmatt · 1 year ago

That is the point. Why would she wait until 2016? When an Obama loss now
puts her in prime position for 2012?

Ted · 1 year ago

Too many unknowns in your prediction ...

But I stand by my view that she's not like her husband when it comes to party politics. Plus, it's really amazing how obsessed 'wingers are with Hillary. It's a lot like my tween's hatred of Hannah Montana in that, I think my daughter really does like her, but can't admit it.

DwDunphy · 1 year ago

The right wingers secretly like Hillary because they see a lot of them in her - that also makes them loathe her. Hillary is a political pro and they would shat themselves into dehydration if they could get her to switch parties.

JonCummings · 1 year ago

What you're doing here, as I said in the post, is showing off precisely the reasons it was important NOT to nominate Hillary this year. I personally think Hillary would make a tremendous president if she were given the slightest bit of room to maneuver--but I didn't support her because I never believed she could win a general election because of exactly the type of spewing vitriol you're displaying toward her.

I mean, she didn't even win and folks are STILL questioning her every motivation and every nuance of her language like she's a three-headed demon serpent.

For Republicans to call Hillary "Macchiavellian" after all the shit they've pulled the last eight years is absolutely criminal.

ozarkmatt · 1 year ago

I don't think I have ever used the word "Macchiavellian" to describe
Hillary! ever. Hell, if it wasn't for copy/paste I'm sure I would
butcher the spelling!
I'm not sure what "vitriol" I am "spewing." My point is for any Democrat
(Hillary! included) not named Obama, that thinks he/she has the chops,
the base and the burning desire to be president, would find it in their
best interest if Obama loses this one. And right now there are only two
Democrats that have those three things. One is running for president and
the other gave a speech last night.

DwDunphy · 1 year ago

If Obama loses, the Democrats are finished. In a year where the GOP is so universally despised, if Rock StarBama can't cross the finish line, she'll only look like that much of a loser. Make no mistake about it. It's not Obama figting for the White House, it's the whole party fighting for its life.

JonCummings · 1 year ago

That's overdramatic. Consider the alternative--the GOP is going to lose badly in Congress in November, unless some bizarre scenario unfolds. If Obama wins and the Dems manage to get a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate, does that mean the Republicans are dead?

Even if Obama loses, Dems will still control Congress by large majorities--and will be far less likely to give McCain what he wants than they were in 2001, when they didn't even control anything.

steve · 1 year ago

Jon's got it right. Mark my words - Obama WILL lose but the Dems will broaden their majorities in congress. Overall I think that will put them in a much stronger position with McCain as Pres.

Ozarkmatt also has it right - Hillary is obliged to give a ra-ra for Obama, but behind the scenes the Clinton machine is hoping/praying that he loses and no doubt doing things under the radar to hurt him. Bubba can't even get the words "he's qualified" out of his mouth. Just yesterday he hinted that he may even vote for McCain (the whole 'candidate X & candidate Y part of his speech yesterday). It's all about them, and always will be. If that fucktard Olbermann could just stop lusting and dreaming over Bill Oreilly for just one day he'd realize that the Clinton's should get the "Worst person in the World" every day for their reprehensible behavior throughout this whole mess. They're truly deplorable human beings.

DwDunphy · 1 year ago

I just don't see how the Dems can survive if they pull defeat from the jaws of victory this time. McCain's voting record for Bush is in the 90% range while the Democrats have the biggest political superstar since the Kennedys. A collapse would be a huge embarrassment and, after it, who the hell could they possibly put up?

The Republicans are like the Yankees. They are perceived as being winners even if their season sucks. They'll survive with little problem. Much different than the Democrats who, with all these things in their favor, will look hopeless in yet another defeat.

Overdramatic? Probably.

Elaine · 1 year ago

Thanks, guys! I do appreciate your objectifications. They were funny and didn't make me lose my dinner. Bravo! Hillary in her tangerine getup talking about the Sisterhood of the Traveling Pantsuit didn't do it for Campbell Brown though. She said there wasn't enough red meat coming out of this convention. That's what Slick is for, honey. Ohhhyeh, he'll take care of you tonight.

DwDunphy · 1 year ago

Slick's in a tough position tonight. He has to make up for the goodwill Hillary lost last night. She barely turned her speech into a unity cry. It was more about propping up her own ego and, oh by the way, yay Obama. Now Bill has to sell that unqualified unity and I don't think he has the stones for it.

Why? He was the most divisive element of the primaries. Now he wants to be the healer? He's going to have to work that turd into a gleaming shinola and, I swear, if he makes any reference to that "first black president" crap, I'm going to scream.

steve · 1 year ago

Bubba will lie tonight and pretend he wants Obama to win. He's proved that he can lie very well. But his comments to reporters and in recent speeches show his true feelings. The funny thing is, he probably thinks we can't tell the difference.

DwDunphy · 1 year ago

Here's a drinking game for the Popdose fans: take a drink every time Bubba genuflects the faithful. You'll be hammered in no time.