Bad links on both indiviual tracks and the bundle. Looks like interesting stuff.
1Py_Korry1
· 1 year ago
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1Py_Korry1
· 1 year ago
FYI: The comment above was from last week's snafu. The link is working, so enjoy!
David_E
· 1 year ago
Interesting list. I agree, for all his ubiquity, Kenny Aronoff gets constantly shorted on the "great drummers" roll. I've always assumed it's because he does so much session work, and tends to stay behind the scene. But man, he is fantastic. (Another casualty: Jim Keltner.)
If I could add a few unlikelies to your list:
Brady Blade. Saw him tour with Steve Earle, and have been a massive fan ever since. Jaw dropping.
Steve Porcaro. Is he an "obvious choice?" Probably. But because Toto gets no love (Jefito aside) in the blogosphere, thought I'd throw it out there.
Finally, Todd Sucherman (currently with, um, Styx). I shit you not. I mean it. Really. Honest. Hand to God. Just listen, okay? The guy's fantastic.
1Py_Korry1
· 1 year ago
I've heard the guy from Styx play live and he's certainly has the chops. And I guess the problem with Porcaro is that while he was a great drummer, some of the Toto songs where he really displayed his talent really sucked.
However, there's a great video of Porcaro breaking down the drum part of "Rosanna" that's really worth a look:
Great to see Mark Brzezicki up there...never see him mentioned in the polls. Great too to see Steve Smith. I agree that Todd Sucherman is a MONSTER on drums..tasteful and spot on. I'd also add Ed Toth (formerly of Vertical Horizon) now with the Doobie Bros. ...VHs 'Live Stages' is where he really shines as a live drummer...for that reason it's one of my desert island discs. Mark Zonder (formerly of Fates Warning) played some incredibly intricate yet tasteful rythms that always impressed me.
Malchus
· 1 year ago
I like Porcaro a lot. His work on David Gilmour's "About Face" is some of my favorite work on any album (subtle, slick, but intricate when it needed to be). However, besides Aronoff (who is my favorite), these other guys don't get mentioned as great rock drummers. Smith is more often thought of as a fusion drummer and Alan White gets overlooked because he followed Bruford into Yes.
There are many others I could have included as great 80's rock drummers: Simon Phillips, Terry Bozzio, Bill Berry... hey, maybe we should doa follow up, Py!
And back to Porcaro thing, as a Springsteen freak, the slickness and polish of "Human Touch" fall squarely on the shoulders of Bruce, Roy Bittan, and Steve Porcaro.
retroDan
· 1 year ago
I always wondered how Steve Lilywhite recorded Mark Brzezicki drum tracks on those early Big Country albums. Could some of those drum fills be overdubs? I swear, during some parts of certain songs it simply sounds like Mark has four arms going.
ken
· 1 year ago
Not to pick nits here but it's Jeff Porcaro you guys are talking about, Steve Porcaro is a keyboard player. Jeff's the one who played on all those records and then died (literally, look it up) in a bizarre gardening accident.
I'm with youse on Porcaro, Brzezicki and Aronoff and also wish to nominate a few more obscure guys like Ben Daughtrey who at age seventeen played the hell out of the drums on Squirrel Bait's two albums and Pat Brady who manned the tubs for the seldom heard but sublime Moving Targets from Boston.
David_E
· 1 year ago
Ah, shit, yes. Jeff. Not Steve. Sorry. I'm on Darvocet today. It's a wonder I can even tyadkvah;lcapolvnz.
Malchus
· 1 year ago
It wasn't that bizarre of a gardening accident. His arteries had blocked after years of drug use and he died of heart failure.
Thanks for pointing out it is Jeff and not Steve!
Beau
· 1 year ago
Brzezicki is fantastic. He and Tony Butler did great work with Townshend before forming Big Country.
You couldn't find upbeat tracks from Peart, Copeland or Collins? Does "Demolition Man" count? That's my favorite Copeland. Collins had "No Reply At All." Peart ... um ... maybe one of his solos?
I guess the first guy I'd add to the mix is Clem Burke, who neatly segued through Blondie's diverse styles -- punk, disco, etc.
Jon
· 1 year ago
I completely forgot to mention Carter Beauford of Dave Matthews...I don't care much for Dave's singing style but I'll listen to their songs on the radio just because of Carter's playing...
Malchus
· 1 year ago
No, I purposely avoided Peart, Collins and Copeland because their names were in the rock news last summer. If I were to pick a Peart song it would have been "Digital Man"; Collins would have been "Dodo/Lurker" and Copeland would have been "Syncronicity 1".
I love what the two guys from big Country did with Townshend, especially on his "All the Best Cowboys.." record.
DwDunphy
· 1 year ago
I don't remember the guy's name, and he died recently, but the drummer for The Knack was fantastic. Forget "My Sharona" for a moment and listen to what he's doing on "Lucinda", "Your Number Or Your Name" and "Frustrated"... Wildly underrated.
Steve Smith... that's a sad one. Yeah, he's a really good drummer, but he's going to be remembered for some of Journey's tamest moments and, consequently, some of their lamest musical examples.
mojo
· 1 year ago
Kenny Aronoff cracks me up. I cannot deny his ability, he' pretty good. But in interviews and anecdotes, I get the feeling he feels that no one ever gives him enough credit for making John Mellencamp the popular star he was at his peak. I mean, songwriting, lyrics, and singing notwithstanding, and oh yeah arrangements and phenemenal collaborations with fiddlers and singers of all manner, and of course a political outlook that so many people could relate to in the depth of the Reagan era...really, without Kenny Aronoff, where would Mellencamp be?
Malchus
· 1 year ago
Well, I have a feeling that all of the musicians contributed to the overall arrangements of the songs and Mellencamp always gets sole writing credit. Most band members are happy with their big paychecks. I think Aronoff wanted a little more.
George
· 1 year ago
I always liked Will Calhoun from Living Colour. He does some great stuff on "Time's Up."
Philomath
· 1 year ago
Thank you for acknowledging Mark Brzezicki. If you like his work with Big Country, check out his work on The Cult's "Love" album. Very, very good stuff!
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If I could add a few unlikelies to your list:
Brady Blade. Saw him tour with Steve Earle, and have been a massive fan ever since. Jaw dropping.
Steve Porcaro. Is he an "obvious choice?" Probably. But because Toto gets no love (Jefito aside) in the blogosphere, thought I'd throw it out there.
Finally, Todd Sucherman (currently with, um, Styx). I shit you not. I mean it. Really. Honest. Hand to God. Just listen, okay? The guy's fantastic.
However, there's a great video of Porcaro breaking down the drum part of "Rosanna" that's really worth a look:
http://drummerworld.com/drummers/Jeff_Porcaro.html
There are many others I could have included as great 80's rock drummers: Simon Phillips, Terry Bozzio, Bill Berry... hey, maybe we should doa follow up, Py!
And back to Porcaro thing, as a Springsteen freak, the slickness and polish of "Human Touch" fall squarely on the shoulders of Bruce, Roy Bittan, and Steve Porcaro.
I'm with youse on Porcaro, Brzezicki and Aronoff and also wish to nominate a few more obscure guys like Ben Daughtrey who at age seventeen played the hell out of the drums on Squirrel Bait's two albums and Pat Brady who manned the tubs for the seldom heard but sublime Moving Targets from Boston.
Thanks for pointing out it is Jeff and not Steve!
You couldn't find upbeat tracks from Peart, Copeland or Collins? Does "Demolition Man" count? That's my favorite Copeland. Collins had "No Reply At All." Peart ... um ... maybe one of his solos?
I guess the first guy I'd add to the mix is Clem Burke, who neatly segued through Blondie's diverse styles -- punk, disco, etc.
I love what the two guys from big Country did with Townshend, especially on his "All the Best Cowboys.." record.
Steve Smith... that's a sad one. Yeah, he's a really good drummer, but he's going to be remembered for some of Journey's tamest moments and, consequently, some of their lamest musical examples.