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Re: The Producers: Macca, Supersuckers, 0 for 4, and Life on Wilshire

aplaceinfrance — Sat, 29 Aug 2009 09:23:56 -0000

To Tom Werman

I'm a huge fan of Cheap Trick and particulary of Rick Nielsen who seemed, from my point of view, a great composer and honest. I had read one of your interviews in the past and some of theirs talking about you. I felt some regrets and despite from you to not work with them, and a lot of respect for the musicians. From Rick about you it was hate/love. I think he reproached you to add solos ( lukhater for Voices) and arrangements without their agree. I'm not involved in your business but you're right, it's not really cool about Say Goodbye. For me, except In Color, too soft, Heaven Tonight and Dream Police are masterpieces. Half for the fabulous tunes, half for the fabulous sound arrangements. Today, I listen these songs (and my children) with the same pleasure. Timeless.

Re: The Producers: Macca, Supersuckers, 0 for 4, and Life on Wilshire

Darren — Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:51:23 -0000

Here's a direct link to my Off Broadway article:

http://popdose.com/great-un...

I had no idea Kalodner had anything to do with them getting inked...and, yes what DID happen to John Kalodner: John Kalodner?

Re: The Producers: Macca, Supersuckers, 0 for 4, and Life on Wilshire

jrakers — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 20:02:30 -0000

Tom:

"Say Goodbye" (Cheap Trick) was in my opinion was a huge potential single. Few songs have a hook like this one. Sad that radio did not give it much play. Reminds me of the Producers, She Sheila as far as a song that you can't get out of your mind.

I ran into Peter Jacobsen on a flight about 10 years ago and asked him about the Jake Trout & the Flounders CD. This was about 10 months after Payne's tragic death. He more or less said the band was done after Payne's passing. I thought it was well produced, humorous, and a great party album.
Having Arnold Palmer's intro to "Love the one you Whiff" was classic.

Joe

Re: The Producers: Macca, Supersuckers, 0 for 4, and Life on Wilshire

Eric S. — Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:57:40 -0000

Wait, I just saw an image that frightens me even more:

http://www.bostonherald.com...

Re: The Producers: Macca, Supersuckers, 0 for 4, and Life on Wilshire

breadalbane — Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:20:22 -0000

According to those posting on the other thread, "Full Moon Turn My Head Around" was actually a B-side that wound up getting about as much play in the midwest as the A-side, "Stay In Line".

"Stay In Line" was the track that charted nationally, and later wound up on one of Rhino's 'DIY' Power Pop comps.

Re: The Producers: Macca, Supersuckers, 0 for 4, and Life on Wilshire

tom werman — Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:31:22 -0000

Ah yes, the Off Broadway boys from Chicago -- loved 'em. Managed by the great Ken Adamany of long-gone Cheap Trick fame , and fronted by Cliff Johnson, I think -- "Full Moon Turn My Head Around" was the prime track from that album, as far as I can recall, which frankly isn't too far. John Kalodner brought me that one, and for the rest of his and my careers pronounced "Werman, you're a genius" repeatedly, but never gave me any more records to produce. Anyone know where John David Kalodner is these days??

Re: The Producers: Macca, Supersuckers, 0 for 4, and Life on Wilshire

breadalbane — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:09:53 -0000

Great read, as always.

Over in another Popdose thread, a band you produced called Off Broadway is getting a lot of love. You haven't mentioned them yet in your column -- any memories?

Re: The Producers: Macca, Supersuckers, 0 for 4, and Life on Wilshire

Eric S. — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:46:16 -0000

Excellent article, but note to the editors: Please, no more hi-def pictures of Paul McCartney. I think I aged a year just looking at it.

Re: The Producers: Macca, Supersuckers, 0 for 4, and Life on Wilshire

jefito — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:41:25 -0000

"I produced Dream Police, and that sandwich!" Bwahahahahahahahaha!

Re: The Producers: Macca, Supersuckers, 0 for 4, and Life on Wilshire

DwDunphy — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:36:47 -0000

I actually have that CD and wondered why you were in the "Thank You" portion, but not in the primary credits portion. I had thought the bad blood had been excised. Boy, howdy. I don't know if I'll ever listen to that CD the same way again (re: Will Harris and the entire XTC catalog)

Re: The Producers: Macca, Supersuckers, 0 for 4, and Life on Wilshire

DwDunphy — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:34:46 -0000

But how would I respond if the guy behind the counter exclaimed, "I produced Dream Police, and that sandwich!" I'm still trying to get my head around the juxtaposition.

Re: The Producers: Macca, Supersuckers, 0 for 4, and Life on Wilshire

DwDunphy — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:33:12 -0000

"This macaroni salad kicks ASS!"

Re: The Producers: Macca, Supersuckers, 0 for 4, and Life on Wilshire

DwDunphy — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:32:38 -0000

Too bad you can't get Brenden O'Brien. He'll do ANYTHING.

(But really, what's Matt Wallace done lately?)

Re: The Producers: Macca, Supersuckers, 0 for 4, and Life on Wilshire

DwDunphy — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:31:19 -0000

I personally would like Tom to write a column about the biggest, worst-produced hits of all time. The rest of the staff handles musical opinion, why couldn't he handle the hottest hits with the lousiest prod. value? I think it would be fun and very informative for us home-gear cavemen.

Re: The Producers: Macca, Supersuckers, 0 for 4, and Life on Wilshire

Matt — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:20:05 -0000

Jeff's a good man - he'll find a good place for you :-) Glad you enjoyed this!

Re: The Producers: Macca, Supersuckers, 0 for 4, and Life on Wilshire

jamesballenger — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:59:27 -0000

"figure out something to keep me around" - What? You could just wax dreamily about Whitesnake and Tawny Kitaen, IMO. Your article (no offense to everyone here at POPdose, because they all rock) is far and away why I check back on a near daily basis to this site.

Re: The Producers: Macca, Supersuckers, 0 for 4, and Life on Wilshire

DwDunphy — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:25:33 -0000

No wonder the record industry is in the dumpster.

Re: The Producers: Macca, Supersuckers, 0 for 4, and Life on Wilshire

Darren — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:09:45 -0000

I say Tom and I should co-host Phags on 45 for awhile...I kid, I kid.

I just re-listened to Jason & The Scorchers' STILL STANDING (on $3 vinyl, no less),and, go figure, Werman's production STILL STANDS heads above anything else the band ever did.

There are tons of producers who SHOULD be run out of the business, left to run a bed and breakfast in sleepytown, but Wermie Baby ain't one of them.

Re: The Producers: Macca, Supersuckers, 0 for 4, and Life on Wilshire

jasonhare — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:03:54 -0000

Tom, I like that you got specific enough to narrow it down to "mayonnaise-based treats."

Re: The Producers: Macca, Supersuckers, 0 for 4, and Life on Wilshire

mojo — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:31:38 -0000

He would have to post this right at lunch time.

Re: The Producers: Macca, Supersuckers, 0 for 4, and Life on Wilshire

David_E — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:22:50 -0000

Personally, I really want one of those sandwiches.

Re: The Producers: Macca, Supersuckers, 0 for 4, and Life on Wilshire

SxPxDxCx — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:20:42 -0000

The Supersuckers are still putting out music on their own label MidFi records and tour 200+ days a year.

Re: The Producers: Macca, Supersuckers, 0 for 4, and Life on Wilshire

jefito — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:18:50 -0000

The original idea was to feature stories from multiple producers (hence the title of the series), so once Mr. Werman's career memoirs are complete, I want to try and find someone else to take over for the second run, and give Tom a more sensibly named section of the site.

Re: The Producers: Macca, Supersuckers, 0 for 4, and Life on Wilshire

MichaelFortes — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:55:11 -0000

Glad to hear that you might still be contributing after this series ends. I second Mojo's comments, and have really been enjoying your column.

Re: The Producers: Macca, Supersuckers, 0 for 4, and Life on Wilshire

tom werman — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:28:52 -0000

Nice of you to say so -- I enjoy reliving the good old days. The next installment will probably bring me to the end of my career, but Jeff Giles and I will figure out something that may keep me around contributing to popdose for some time.